February 25 Lab Day for Sophomores--Blue Class
Today in the lab I would like you to read through the blog responses to #1 Soph Journal, From a Different Point of View for YOUR section. This blog was posted on February 15.Comment on three of the better responses, specifically explaining why you liked each of the three in a few sentences (3-5 each).
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posted by JTF @ 8:45 AM
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1. I liked Zach Iron's blog in the perspective of Ernest Morrow's mom best. He was creative and included how she felt about her son Ernest being so humble, even though Holden had lied. Zach took a relatively insignificant scene and made it interesting.
2. Kathryn Fish's blog from Sally Haye's viewpoint was also really good. I like how she ended being confused about Holden saying he loved her but she was also a pain. The dialogue matched the book well, too.
3. James Hamory opted to explain his thoughts on Holden, the other variation of the blog. He was very thorough and supported all of his statements. It was interesting how he knew that most people disliked Holden, but he strongly admired him. His vocabulary was also great.
I read Caroline’s, Madelyn’s, and Jake’s entries. I thought they were all very good and detailed. I thought Caroline’s entry was the most interesting because she wrote from the view of Jane Gallagher. I did not expect anyone to use that character and she made it work. It was definitely one of the most creative entries.
Madelyn also had a very good entry. The way she portrayed Phoebe was very creative. I liked how she flipped the scene involving the note to a different perspective. I really enjoyed reading it.
Finally, Jake’s entry was not the creative kind, but I still thought he made many good points. He mentioned Holden’s obsession with protecting innocence, which was a major theme of the story. Also, he used good examples to get his point across.
One blog post I enjoyed reading was James Hamory’s. His blog told about his opinion on the character of Holden. James actually likes the negativity and contradiction of Holden’s character because it makes him unlike any other character he has ever read about. I noticed that other people who did the same type of blog said they disliked Holden for these reasons, but I happen to agree with James. I think Holden is a really neat character. Without his narration, the book would be lacking something. Another blog post I enjoyed was Kathryn Fish’s. She did the same part of the book that I did: Holden’s date with Sally Hayes. It was interesting to see how someone else would retell the same part of the story. Our blogs were pretty similar in that Sally felt that Holden acted sore and uninterested during most of the activities they did that night and she was mainly concerned about herself. The final blog post I enjoyed was Kevin Poursaid’s. His blog was from Stradlater’s point of view. I thought his descriptions of Holden from his point of view were spot-on. “He has a tendency to read into everything a little bit too much,” and “his mind works at about one thousand miles an hour,” are some specific phrases from the blog that I think are really accurate.
1. I enjoyed reading Caroline Sylvia’s entry from the perspective of Jane Gallagher. Caroline captured Jane’s innocence. I enjoyed reading about a more vulnerable side of Holden comforting Jane when she was upset.
2. I also enjoyed reading Lauren Sorantino’s blog from the perspective of Sally Hayes. Lauren wrote in the tone I would expect the character Sally to use. With words like marvelous, and grand, the blog felt like it was written in her perspective. I also liked how sally told Holden she loved him back. This makes Holden seem more vulnerable, considering he consciously told her he loved her.
3. James Hamory’s analysis of Holden was also interesting to read. I enjoyed reading his interpretation of the character. You can tell he understands this character. Although many see the bad in Holden, he was able to understand the morally “good at heart” nature about him.
Out of all the stories I read I especially liked Rachel Farmer’s blog from the perspective of Phoebe. The narration from Phoebe’s standpoint was very realistic. She really captured the rambling nature of Phoebe and showed how she thinks. The blog could have fit into the novel seamlessly.
I also enjoyed Kathryn Fish’s blog form the viewpoint of Sally Hayes. It gave more insight into how other people view Holden’s rants. She showed how although Sally liked and appreciated Holden’s company she got kind of confused by his sudden mood swings and tantrums. I also liked how she alluded to Holden’s dislike of the play.
Finally, I liked John Dougherty’s version of the story from the eyes of Ernest Morrow’s mother. I like how he stereotyped Mrs. Morrow into a typical rich lady. He did this by talking about lavish parties and sending Ernest to an all boys academy. She even mentioned the potential of Ivy League spots if Ernest got good grades. John really made this unimportant character seem complex and important.
1. RachelF's post from Phoebe's point of view:
I really enjoyed how Rachel made her journal from Phoebe's point of view. It gave the reader an idea of how Phoebe could have felt when Holden came home early. She wrote it as if it were an excerpt from Phoebe’s journal or diary that she may have kept.
2. LaurenS’s post from Sally Hayes’ point of view:
Reading the scene in the book about Holden’s date from Sally’s perspective really fit in with her personality. The language and mood that Lauren used was exactly how I pictured Sally Hayes. Just as Holden described in the book, you could both love and hate how Sally acted. Her energy and excitement about everything, including the movie and seeing George from Andover fit perfectly.
3. MadelynB’s persepective of Phoebe in class:
Phoebe’s perspective in class when the teacher delivered the note from Holden really gave the reader a new point of view for the entire chapter. You can easily tell that Phoebe had an overwhelming amount of emotions when she read the note from Holden about leaving. Madelyn describes Phoebe’s situation in a way that you can tell that Phoebe felt excited, angry, and impatient all at the same time. The way that Phoebe waited in class and then left to pack her bags really added to the intensity and anxiousness as the reader waited to see what Holden would do.
I liked Katy’s blog about the fight with Holden and Stradlater in Stradlater’s point of view. I liked it because she made Stradlater seem innocent and Holden like the bad guy. Throughout the book, we don’t usually get to see Holden as the bad guy, he is always telling stores about people and making them seem like the bad guy and that he’s innocent. It was nice to see someone else telling stories about Holden that didn’t necessarily compliment his character.
I liked Casey’s blog about Earnest Morrow’s mom and Holden having a conversation together on the train. I liked it because Earnest Morrow’s mom doesn’t really have a big role in the book. She’s not Jane Gallagher or Pheobe and it was nice to hear what she thought about Holden. or “Rudolf Schmidt.” We never really know what she thought about all the things that Holden was saying about her son. She chose to have Earnest Morrow;s mother believe Holden instead of questioning him, which I thought was interesting.
I liked Andrew’s blog in Sunny’s point of view. I liked it because I couldn’t imagine how Sunny was feeling when she met Holden or even how she got to where she is now. It was nice to see that she had a soft side to her and that she wasn’t just a mean old prostitute. I liked reading about the things that went through her head during there interaction.
1. I really enjoyed Zach Irons' creative writing paragraph because it was interesting and entertaining. He wrote from the perspective of Ernest Morrow's mom, which I found to be an intriguing choice. In this paragraph the woman was very snobbish, and it was interesting to read her thoughts as she conversed with Holden. The thought process Zach unveiled seemed very realistic and convincing.
2. I found Rachel Farmer’s paragraph from the perspective of Pheobe very well written. I enjoyed the fact that she wrote in the dialect of a young child such as Pheobe. The way the paragraph was written, truly convinced me that what was written was genuinely Pheobe’s thought. I found it very interesting to read an assumed thought process of Pheobe that is noted in the actual novel.
3. One more passage that I found very creative was Kevin’s. He decided to write from the perspective of Stradlater when him and Holden were in the Bathroom and he was shaving to look good for his date with Jane Gallagher. This paragraph was interesting in that it was very casually written and truly seemed like the way I imagine Stradlater would think. Many great points and criticisms were acknowledged that realistically relate to Stradlater’s personality. I found this to be an intriguing paragraph opinionated view.
One blog that I found to be particularly well written which I read was Rachel Farmer’s that she wrote about the scene when Holden comes home in the middle of the night told from Phoebe’s perspective. What I especially like about this particular blog is the manner in which it is written. She has Phoebe speak in a way that J.D. Salinger would have her speak. She overuses words and phrases such as “too” and “he really is” just as is done in the book. Phoebe, in her blog, goes on a long rant which is exactly what Holden has a tendency to do in the book.
Another blog which I very much liked was the one written by Kevin Poursaied. It tells of the scene when Holden goes to the bathroom with Stradlater told from Stradlater’s point of view. What I especially like about it is the way that it clearly demonstrates Stradlater’s conceited and condescending attitude in general as well as towards Holden. It is very well written in a way that J.D. Salinger might have written a scene like that.
Lauren Crouse’s blog offering her insights and opinions regarding the character of Holden Caulfield was quite good as well. Her analysis of the main character is very interesting and I happen to agree with most of the points that she tried to make. One point that I found intriguing was the possibility of Holden’s depression being a result of the death of his younger brother, Allie. I also highly agree with her that a character with a negative outlook on life is highly distasteful.
I enjoyed John Dougherty’s post from the view of Mrs. Morrow, the mother of Ernest Morrow, one of Holden’s classmates, whom Holden met on a train. In the book, Holden describes how he made up a fake persona, Rudolf Schmitt, and proceeded to tell Mrs. Morrow a lot of flattering things that were not true about his son. John’s writing gives insight into just how gullible these prep school parents are, and how if you just tell them what they want to hear, they will believe every word of it.
I also enjoyed Madelyn Baker’s post from the point of view of Phoebe. While most people chose to do the scene where Phoebe first sees Holden, Madelyn chose to march to the beat of her own drummer, and write from Phoebe’s point of view when Holden gives her a letter in school telling her to meet him at the museum. This is an important moment in the plot, and I enjoyed how Madelyn showed that Phoebe recognizes Holden’s obsession with Phoebe and of the innocence of children and uses it to her advantage.
Finally, Allie’s post from the point of view of Mr. Antolini, sheds light on one of the more disturbing parts of the book. Allie points out that Mr. Antolini has respect for Holden and that he was really worried about Holden’s health. She explains that although Mr. Antolini was drunk, he was acting out of concern for Holden and not because he was “attracted” to Holden as Holden makes it seem in the book.
I like Lauren Sorantino’s repetitive use of darling and marvelous. It reminded me of Holden’s limited use of different words. I could tell that Sally Hayes was the one whom she wrote the point of view from. Her commentary touches on every personality trait of Holden such as his lack of maturity and his tendency to ask a lot of irrelevant questions to keep small talk. Lauren portrayed Sally as miserable on this date with Holden, almost as if she went on the date with him through pity. The ending was my favorite when she blew him off after he said a rude comment and went to the bar to have a drink to forget about him.
Kathryn Fish’s essay from Sally Hayes point of view is different from Lauren Sorantino’s, but you are still able to tell that Sally is the narrator. Her take on Sally’s emotions toward Holden were the opposite of Lauren’s in regards to Holden saying that he loves her. Sally’s diction was exactly how Salinger would have depicted her. Kathryn also showed Holden’s negativity by the litany of things that he hates towards the ending of the essay.
Lastly, Rachel Farmer’s essay from Pheobe’s point of view was well written. Right away I knew that Pehoebe was telling the story just from the way that she talked about Holden and the fact that she mentioned that it was her brother. Also, you can tell that a little girl is telling the story because her vocab is simple, she calls her father, “daddy,” and she rambles like a common little girl. You could feel the innocence of the young girl as she talks about her brothers, especially Allie.
I like Rachel Farmer’s story because I enjoy hearing about Phoebe. I also like reading about what Phoebe is thinking and going through her mind about Holden.
I enjoyed Allie Spurrier’s rendition of the story because it was showed from Mr. Antolini’s point of view. In the book I did not really like Mr. Antolini’s character because I thought he was just trying to get Holden to stop talking by giving him all the advice, but here Allie shows us that Mr. Antolini really cares about Holden and is worried about his state of mind.
I also liked Kevin Pourseid’s creative essay. His is very unique in the way of the setting. When talking about Stradlater, I’m not sure that I would have used that particular scene but I enjoyed reading Kevin’s rendition of the bathroom scene from Stradlater’s point of view.
I thought Rachel Farmer’s journal response was very good. Rachel wrote in the perspective of Holden’s little sister, Phoebe. I liked hearing what Phoebe was thinking about when Holden came home to see her. Her mind wonders to other things, just like a child’s mind should.
I enjoyed Kathryn Fish’s journal response a lot. Kathryn wrote in Sally Hayes’ point of view. I liked hearing what Sally thought about spending time with Holden. Kathryn had a very good ending in which she said, “How could he tell me that he loves me just hours before and tell me now that I’m a pain?”
I also liked Allie Spurrier’s journal response. Allie wrote in Mr. Antolini’s, one of Holden’s old English teachers, perspective. I enjoyed hearing what Mr. Antolini thought about Holden and what has happened in Holden’s life. In the book, Mr. Antolini is portrayed as a generous, but creepy man. Allie portrayed him as a very caring man that was concerned about Holden and his health. Allie also mentioned advice that Mr. Antolini gave Holden and how Mr. Antolini told Holden that he was heading for a great fall in his life.
I thought all of these journal responses were very well written and creative.
1. John D’s blog from Mrs. Morrow’s point of view:
He made her seem like a proud mother who had no clue that Holden was lying about his true identity and real thoughts about her son. He went into detail about what Ernest Morrow’s mother thought of him and how Holden made her believe that Ernest was a completely changed person. He was nothing like she thought he was. She was glad to hear that he was “modest about his popularity.” She thought Pencey Prep was a great investment, which is odd seeing as Holden hated that school.
2. Katy S’s blog from Stradlater’s point of view:
I like how she incorporated the dialogue from the story and added Stradlater’s thoughts. We know how Holden felt, but this is an idea of how Stradlater felt through the scene where they end up in a fight. It gave absent minded thoughts on how he thought of Holden. Like he thought he was weird and didn’t want to get thrown out because Holden was smoking and being annoying.
3. Tina N’s blog from Phoebe’s point of view:
I like how she makes Phoebe pay attention to details and how Phoebe really knows her brother. She does this when she mentions how he’s always in a rush and when she wonders if he really read her letter about the play. She was on to him when he was home early and she just knew that he had gotten kicked out of yet another school. She was very sensitive to the fact that she missed Holden and didn’t like it when he was far away at some school.
I really liked Zach I’s blog from the point of view of Mrs. Morrow. It clearly depicted the scene and accurately depicted her character. I feel it follows her probable train of thought as she talked to Holden. His blog shows her character of a rich housewife curious about the well being of her son.
I like James H's blog describing Holden. It accurately describes a reader's reactions to Holden. I feel it reveals the intricate character of Holden from an unbiased perspective. Holden is a hard character to like initially, but this blog shows that despite his flaws, Holden Caulfield teaches it us important lessons.
I liked Lauren S's blog about Holden's date with Sally Hayes. It captured the character of Sally and her reaction to the date with Holden. It was well written and had the same flow as the book. I liked it because it had good characterization of Sally and was well written.
I really liked reading Allie Spurrier’s blog. It was interesting reading about Mr. Antolini’s take on the scene. It showed in more depth the reasoning behind some of his decisions, like asking D.B. to stay and also staying up to watch Holden sleep. This blog makes you gain a new respect for the character of Mr. Antolini, and how he’s not correctly described as a pervert, like Holden thinks.
Another blog I really enjoyed reading was Lauren Sorantino’s. She did the point of view of Holden’s date, Sally. She did a great job of portraying Sally’s bubbly, girly personality. It was also interesting to see in the mind of Sally, and her thoughts when Holden wanted to run away with her and also when her insulted her.
Finally, the last blog that I really enjoyed to read was James Hamory’s. While most others criticize Holden’s synical and sarcastic character, he really enjoyed and embraced it. He also pointed out that the book was from a very realistic standpoint, and not the usual Hollywood ending that you usually see, which I felt was one of the key points to the book.
I really enjoyed John’s blog about the perspective of Mrs. Morrow on the train. She is obviously very gullible by the way the book made it out to be, and John did a good job displaying that by how she believed everything “Rudolf” was saying at the time. She had not the slightest clue that her son was somewhat of a troublemaker and was loving every second of what Holden was telling her about her son. John put you in the shoes of Mrs. Morrow when she heard that Rudolf had a tumor.
I also enjoyed the blog of Katy. She wrote about the perspective of Stradlater, Holden’s roommate. She did a nice job of describing how frustrated Stradlater would get with Holden. Stradlater had a cocky personality and seemed pretty condescending towards Holden. Holden may have been a bit out there, but he really tried to be a good friend and help out Stradlater, but Stradlater was unappreciative.
I also liked Kathryn Fish’s blog talking about the perspective of Jane Gallagher when she was on a date with Holden. She obviously thought Holden was someone special, contrary to what most other people believed. She seemed to really like him. The way Holden had a knack for messing up good situations and saying something out of line was well described here in the sudden transition from “I love you” to “you’re such a pain.”
Rachel F. did her journal on Phoebe’s point of view when Holden comes to her room. I believe she did a good job in portraying Phoebe’s curious, witty, and outgoing personality, while still making it obvious that she was a child. She also did well in showing how much Phoebe adored Holden. Her journal was also good because of her use of specific events: 39 Steps, Hazel Weatherfield, and the changing of her middle name. I enjoyed her journal because of how funny she made it. Overall, she did a very good job in showing Phoebe’s point of view when Holden comes to her room.
Zach I. did his journal on Ernest morrow’s mother’s point of view while on train with Holden. I agree with Mrs. Morrow’s thoughts about Holden. In addition, I agreed with her reactions to Holden’s false compliments about her son and to Holden’s claim of having a brain tumor. His journal depicted Mrs. Morrow as I would: a stereotypical mother.
Caroline S. did her journal on Jane Gallagher’s point of view as a child with Holden during their summer Maine. My thoughts coincide with hers: that Jane like Holden for his sweet, gentle, and caring attitude. I also agree with Jane’s very similar personality, and I liked that she associated this with specific events: the kings in the back row and Allie’s baseball mitt. She also did well in representing her thoughts of her step-father.
I read Rachel F’s, Brendan’s, and Lauren S’s journals. Rachel wrote from the point of view of Pheobe. The best thing about her writing was that it was very realistic. I could totally see Phoebe saying the she said. Rachel’s journal also made the point that the Caulfields were a family of writers. That had never occurred to me before. The main reason I enjoyed Brendan’s journal is because his feelings about Holden are very similar to my own. His arguments that Holden is immature, a pessimist, and a hypocrite are particularly strong. However, I also agree that Holden was the perfect character to showcase many of JD Salinger’s ideas. Lauren S did a marvelous job at writing from the point of view of Sally Hayes. Lauren did a good job of getting the point across of how in a lot of ways Sally Hayes was the epitome of many of the thing Holden routinely criticized. (“grand”, Lunts, etc) Lauren did a very good job at explaining Holden’s last ridiculous rant to Sally Hayes from her point of view. I also liked how Sally Hayes was too much of a lady to say “Pain in the ass.” All three of these journals were very well written.
1. I liked Zach Iron’s blog because it showed how Ernest Morrow’s mother is very overprotective and always worrying about her son. Even though most of what Holden is saying is a lie you know that she will always have that worry about her son.
2. I also liked Madelyn Baker’s because at the end she says in Phoebe’s point of view “...I’d done my job…” which I thought was interesting because Phoebe was whining. It’s like a child whining about a toy and when they finally get that toy they believe that they did the right thing.
3. I also really liked Lauren Crouse’s because it somewhat showed how Holden’s depression in the book can bring you down as well. She was also able to express how I believe a lot of people feel about Holden.
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