#2 Soph Journal: Post by October 10
Listen carefully to this video of Mr. Jerry Falwell, a minister and founder of Liberty University; and Pat Robertson, a former minister and televangelist, speaking two days after the 9-11 catastrophe (the text of the video appears below).
Both men had (Falwell is deceased now) strong, conservative, religious opinions. For instance, both men decried the fact that prayer could not be said in public schools. The ACLU [American Civil Liberties Union, the group to which the men refer] fought to keep prayer out of public schools, so they were seen as religious enemies by Robertson and Falwell. This is just a brief summary to explain the political and historical context of the two men's words.
Robertson and Falwell are firm believers in God's providence--God as the provider and God as the punisher, too. They are not unlike the early Puritans in this way.
Here is a transcript of the video (with some additional words before the video begins):
JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters - the Husseins, the BinLadens, the Arafats--what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be minuscule if, in fact--if, in fact--God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.
PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.
JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, yes.
JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system.
Respond to one of the three prompts:
1. Do you agree with or disagree with Falwell and Robertson? Explain your answer in a thoughtful response. Specifically agree with or refute specific ideas that they expressed in this video.
2. Relate a personal story in which you believed God played an important role in answering a prayer.
3. Discuss an incident that occurred in American history where someone, or some group of people, were persecuted for their religious beliefs OR for not having any religious beliefs. Explain your feelings on this incident.
As always, write a minimum 200 word response.
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I completely disagree with the words of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and their belief of God’s Providence. God’s Providence is the idea that God is the provider and the punisher. It states that God rewards and punishes people based on their actions. I do not believe in the idea of God’s Providence. Falwell and Robertson believe that God played a role in the killing of thousands of incident people on 9-11. They also blamed the pagans, the abortionists, the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians for their role in 9-11. In my opinion, 9-11 was an event that should not have happened. I was taught that God made everyone in his own image and likeness, and that everyone is made equally. God created all of us for a different reason. It does n’t matter if you are gay, lesbian, male, or female; everyone is made by God in his own image and likeness. We are taught that He is a God of love and compassion, not a God of hatred and punishment. So to even think our God would play a role in the events of 9-11 is ridiculous. He would never do something so cruel and evil to his own people. However, I do agree with Falwell and Robertson and their belief that society has changed from what it was before, but to say God committed this sinful act is completely unacceptable.
Journal #2
After listening to and reading about the things these two men said, I would have to say that I do not agree with these men. I do not think that people with alternative lifestyles are in any part involved in the horrendous 9/11 attacks. I think that there are some sick people in the world (the Islamic extremists) who had a horrible plot to hurt many people, those people in the world that had different beliefs did not anger God and cause him to take out his wrath upon those who people may think have gone against God. God said that after the flood, he would never again turn on his people. The 9/11 attacks were the idea of some people who hated the fact that America was free. God created everyone in his image and although some may be different or not share the same beliefs, God would not intensionally hurt his most beautiful creation. By bring those who our different into this conversation and saying that God’s anger is the reason that 9/11 happened, is truely inappropriate and uncalled for in my eyes. God would never do such a horrible thing out of anger because our God is good and would never hurt anyone.
When I was about five years old, our family of six decided to get a puppy. We named him Scooby and he was a yellow Labrador. Scooby loved to play and run everywhere. One fall day though, he ran away while chasing something through our woods. We called for him to come back, but he never did. We made posters that said “Lost Dog” and had our information on it. That night I prayed that Scooby would come home and hopefully he was safe. The next day we got a call from someone saying they had him. I was so excited to see him again! When my parents came home, they were both quiet and serious. I soon found out that Scooby had been hit by a car on the highway, and was killed instantly. I was so upset and confused as to why it had to be our dog. Why didn’t God keep my dog safe? I didn’t realize it then, but I can see that God did answer my prayer and made sure it was painless for Scooby. I know that he is in Heaven now, and he is watching over me.
1. I feel like I’m split down the middle as to whether or not it’s their fault. Going against them, I feel like the people in the United States choose to live out their lives through their beliefs and unless that belief is morally wrong, I feel like they can’t be blamed for just having a different religion or preferences. They didn’t fly a plane into the Pentagon or even want a plane to hit the twin towers. They aren’t terrorists and can’t be blamed for 9-11. On the other hand, 9-11 could be a way of God’s Providence to show a sign to America that we might have done something wrong in letting prayer be barred in public schools. Either way I don’t think that 9-11 could be pinned on people in the United States.
2. When my father had to undergo a double bypass surgery, I feel that my family’s prayer helped him get thorough the surgery and assisted him to his recovery.
3. Back during World War II, the Jewish people were killed by the Nazis for their religious beliefs. Hitler, leader of the Nazis, was responsible for the death of over ten million people, six million Jews and 4 million minorities. The holocaust in my opinion was a horrific and tragic event that never should have taken place. It is not right at all to murder someone just because they have different beliefs.
Although some people do not believe God, and some people believe that God cannot hear them, I am one of those people who believe that God listens and answers prayers. I can remember a few incidents in which I believe God answered my prayers. One incident was in the eighth grade. In a soccer game a few days before, I ended up very badly bruising my rib cage. I was in a lot of pain and it was difficult and painful to breathe. I went to the doctor, but they said there really wasn’t anything I could do to help the healing process. My little sister was doing a project on the saints. So we went to a chapel and were looking at stuff on the saints for her. That day, I was in A LOT of pain. I remember clearly that it was a day when my pain was almost excruciating. This nun was there and she told me that we were going to pray to God for my ribs to get better. I prayed to God with her, thinking not much of it, but was I wrong. I went to bed that night in pain, and woke up that very next morning with no pain at all. After that, I didn’t have almost any pain at all. In my mind, I believed that God answered our prayers and healed my ribs a lot quicker. This was very important to me and felt like He answered my prayers.
Many people think of religious persecution as something that happened in Germany in World War II or in Middle Eastern countries. But, in fact there is religious persecution every day in America. According to the FBI about 1,500 hate crimes are committed in the U.S. each year. The majority target Jews but in post-9/11 America, Muslims are starting to feel more and more pressure. Many people assume that all Muslims play a part in terrorist acts, but really only a small number of radicals are to blame. After 9/11 most people were suspicious of Muslims and were scared of them. Some government officials even went as far as to say that Muslim representatives must swear an oath of allegiance to America. No other representatives have to do this. In New York City, a mosque was being built a few blocks away from Ground Zero and when the public heard about it they were outraged. They couldn’t understand why a Muslim house of worship would be next to a place where some of their religion had killed thousands of innocent people. People still are “Islamophobes” twelve years after the attacks in New York. One Muslim family in San Francisco was told to go back to their own country. They were ordinary Americans with nothing to do with what happened on 9/11. It is completely unfair to stereotype many because of the actions of the few. Imagine how we as Americans could be stereotyped. Baby-slayers, promiscuous, immoral. These are just a few possible names we could be called. If we don’t want others to stereotypes us by what a few people do then we shouldn’t do it to Muslims or any race or religion for that matter. If America wants to be the best we need to start setting a good example to others. And we can start by treating other religions fairly.
As God’s children, we are all made in God’s image. Because we are made in his image, we are all related and should treat each other as brother and sister. I strongly disagree with Falwell and Robertson because of their closed-mindedness and inability to see the reason for this catastrophe. The incident on 9/11 did not occur out of hatred from God but from the hatred of individuals towards the United States. God did not punish us because of the actions of the abortionists, feminists, pagans, or gays and lesbians. This was not a result of the killing of 40 million babies. Abortionists should not feel the burden. Life is very sacred and should not be aborted but that does not mean God punished this country for their decisions. God has no part in the actions of society. Because of our beliefs, we tend to ostracize those who are not favored in God’s eyes. Therefore, Falwell and Robertson blamed those who “disobeyed” God. Even though they go against certain beliefs, it does not justify the words of the two ministers. God loves all of his children equally. Although abortionists, pagans, feminists, and gays and lesbians do not follow what we believe, God forgives them when they sin. Also, Falwell and Robertson should not blame the ACLU. The ACLU fights for what is right. They were only justifying the difference between church and state. Public schools are run by the government and are not influenced by religion in anyway. For that reason, they have no right to blame the ACLU for not accepting prayers in public schools. The only people that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson can accurately blame are Osama BinLaden and his accomplices, not their countries, the ACLU, gays and lesbians, feminists, pagans, or abortionists.
Based upon the arguments made by Falwell and Robertson, I would have to disagree with their views as a whole. Though they do make several good points, their opinion on why 9/11 occurred was not correct or justifiable. Farwell's blaming a group whose views don't match his own such as the ACLU for the unrelated acts of terrorists who have their own agenda makes no sense whatsoever to me. Though he makes a good point in saying that God would not be happy with the people he named such as the ACLU or abortionists, I do not believe that God would choose to punish innocent workers in the form of crashing a plane into a building. Farwell says “all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" I find this view to be absurd in how he implies that these people encouraged and wanted for the tragedy of 9/11 to happen. Though Robertson and Farwell see God as a punisher as well as a provider, as a Catholic I see God as a provider. The Islam extremists have their own twisted agenda in which they see themselves as doing good in their “jihad” to spread Islam in a violent way.
I disagree with Falwell and Robertson. The reason’s why i disagree with them is because I personally don’t think that the pagans, abortionists, the feminist, the gays, and the lesbians did not help make this happen. The only reason they are being blamed for this is because of their lifestyle views. They did not choose to be this way, they may also have reasons to choosing these lifestyles. Also, Falwell talks about how people are “throwing God out of the public square, out of schools” is to blame. This shouldn’t be put to blame because the schools are making it so any religion can go to school and have a chance to learn. Just because people are having abortions, does not mean they have to bear some burden, and they are not mocking God. Falwell and Robertson do not know if having an abortion makes God angry. God does not “lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve”. Why would God want to make America suffer and hurt for those who are different? They shouldn’t point the finger at those who are different, they should point the finger at the ones who are against it.
I disagree with Falwell and Robertson because they are trying to claim that the acts on 9/11 were caused by God’s punishment toward the American people. Falwell is saying God has lifted the “curtain” protecting us, and we will now get what we, “…probably deserve.” This is completely false because God is a forgiving and compassionate Father that would not punish his people for the sins we have committed. Also, Falwell tries to blame 9/11 on those who have aborted children, and this is God’s revenge for abortion. “God will not be mocked,” Falwell claims. He also claims that the gay, lesbian, and feminist communities are the ones to blame for the terrorist attacks. I think his opinions about 9/11 are arrogant, and full of lies. What makes Falwell and Robertson think actions cause 9/11 is beyond me. If God did punish humans for their mistakes, Falwell and Robertson would be the first to be punished, because they are quick to point the finger toward other people for the tragedies that occurred. I do not think God punished us with 9/11 I think he had it happen to show us that society is changing and we can’t always trust other people.
I disagree with Falwell and Robertson because they are trying to claim that the acts on 9/11 were caused by God’s punishment toward the American people. Falwell is saying God has lifted the “curtain” protecting us, and we will now get what we, “…probably deserve.” This is completely false because God is a forgiving and compassionate Father that would not punish his people for the sins we have committed. Also, Falwell tries to blame 9/11 on those who have aborted children, and this is God’s revenge for abortion. “God will not be mocked,” Falwell claims. He also claims that the gay, lesbian, and feminist communities are the ones to blame for the terrorist attacks. I think his opinions about 9/11 are arrogant, and full of lies. What makes Falwell and Robertson think actions cause 9/11 is beyond me. If God did punish humans for their mistakes, Falwell and Robertson would be the first to be punished, because they are quick to point the finger toward other people for the tragedies that occurred. I do not think God punished us with 9/11 I think he had it happen to show us that society is changing and we can’t always trust other people.
I strongly disagree with what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have to say. Their theory that these events were caused by the actions of people is completely false. God is a God of love; he would not harm his own children purposely because they chose a different lifestyle from others. They believe that because people who are different religions and because of organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union God would intentionally harm his own children. Falwell tells God is letting us get what we “probably deserve” when this is not the case. Everyone deserves life and deserves free will as God has given us. Why would God punish us for exercising the power he gave us? We have the right to make our own decisions and to make our own choices. God loves all his children. The removal of God from the public school system of course is a problem; but would God who created all of us actually let us die because of it? Would it override his unconditional love for humanity? I just cannot possibly believe that is true. It would not make sense. Falwell and Robertson are obviously strong believers in divine providence but I disagree that the horrific events of 9-11 were caused by wrong doings in the eyes of church officials and teachers. God loves all his creation no matter what. God is love and forgiveness. God is not a God of punishment. God is compassion.
In reference to Falwell and Robertson’s opinions I would have to choose to disagree. They make many good points by saying that God is probably mad about the fact that abortionists are killing millions of innocent babies. This however does not justify saying that it is the pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, people who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, and the ACLUs job to take responsibility for something as disastrous as 9/11. Gays and lesbians cannot help who they are or what they stand for. God loves all of his people. Just because they have certain beliefs that go against various religions does not mean they spread what they believe or practice in a hateful way. This supports my disagreement because how can someone or something be responsible for something they cannot control or something they had no part of. The ACLU has all children and their beliefs in mind when keeping religion out of public schools. Even with religion in schools, people do terrible things. For example, more and more priests are being convicted with sexual assault. Just because someone has religion in their lives does not mean they are always innocent and just because someone does not have religion in their lives does not mean that they are the reason for all of the world’s treacherous disasters.
In reference to Falwell and Robertson’s opinions I would have to choose to disagree. They make many good points by saying that God is probably mad about the fact that abortionists are killing millions of innocent babies. This however does not justify saying that it is the pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, people who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, and the ACLUs job to take responsibility for something as disastrous as 9/11. Gays and lesbians cannot help who they are or what they stand for. God loves all of his people. Just because they have certain beliefs that go against various religions does not mean they spread what they believe or practice in a hateful way. This supports my disagreement because how can someone or something be responsible for something they cannot control or something they had no part of. The ACLU has all children and their beliefs in mind when keeping religion out of public schools. Even with religion in schools, people do terrible things. For example, more and more priests are being convicted with sexual assault. Just because someone has religion in their lives does not mean they are always innocent and just because someone does not have religion in their lives does not mean that they are the reason for all of the world’s treacherous disasters.
I completely disagree with Falwell and Robertson regarding this topic. They are trying to say that God is the provider and punisher. While that is somewhat true, God did not purposely cause the death of so many Americans on 9-11. Falwell and Robertson are also trying to say that the gays, lesbians, feminists, abortionists, and pagans all had some part in contributing to the tragedy that happened on 9-11. God created everyone in his own image and likeness; he would not punish the groups of people mentioned above just because they are living an alternate lifestyle. He created them to be the way that they are. Everything happens for a reason, and God is behind every single thing that happens in peoples’ lives. Yes, bad things happen to people but so do good things. A lesson is to be learned after every situation, and after 9-11, although many lives were lost, America united as a country and realized that nothing should be taken for granted. At the end, Robertson blames the court systems for not controlling the free people in our country from committing these evil acts. However, the court system had nothing to do with 9-11. America is a free nation, welcoming everyone and anyone into our country, and like it was stated above, everything happens for a reason.
After reading and watching the video several times I am going to agree and at the same time disagree with Falwell and Robertson. I agree with these two men because they said they both strongly disagreed on the subject of not allowing religion in public schools. I have personally experienced this because I went to public school for eight years of my life. Through out those eight years the subject of religion has rarely been brought up in class. Even if it the subject of God was brought up in class our teacher would always tell us to stop talking about it and change the subject. Now that I go to a catholic school I realize how important the subject of God is and what his role in our life really is. I also disagree with Falwell and Robertson because they are blaming the pagans, the abortionists, the feminists, and the gays and lesbians for 9-11. The men are saying that God is responsible for 9-11 and he is angry at the people who do wrong in the world. It isn't God's fault for the happening of 9-11 it is every individual who despises the United States of America.
I disagree with these men of the Lord. I don’t understand how a God who is supposed to be so understanding so compassionate that he would give up his only son for us so that we may live. I just don’t see how he would allow hundreds of people to die over gays, feminists, abortions, lesbians, or public school. I do give these men their credit they are learned in their studies and fields and I believe each person has a right to their own opinion. I most certainly do not however believe that God could allow this to happen for those reasons. If he did then I am not all too sure I want to believe in such a God. In religion God always punished those who had committed crimes against him, but on those planes I doubt that all those people if any were gay or lesbian, or of the public schools. To say that it is the fault of hundreds is blasphemous by its very nature. You dare to accuse men and women who might have had family on those planes that if they were gay or the like that it is partially their fault for allowing this monstrosity to happen. That is like saying to someone who is a descendant of a Nazi you no it’s your fault that all those people died in the holocaust. I strongly with every fiber of my being do disagree with these men with all due respect to them and their beliefs. I am honestly offended by this. It disturbs me that we can blame something as tragic as 9/11 on the homosexual and gay population. Yes I believe that whether or not God has an issue with that he will judge them at the end of time, but to say that God punished hundreds of innocent people physically and thousands more spiritually for something that they may or may not have been a part of in my opinion is wrong. We should be banding together to overcome evil not find fault for the deaths of innocents with those who may not share our views. Also with the public school issue and not tolerating religion that is a basic right. If I am a Jewish student going to a public school dominantly catholic I don’t believe it is fair especially in a society which stresses religious freedom to make me pray or state something which I don’t believe in. So know I don’t agree with these men in any way shape or form in any of the statements that they have presented.
John Panico Yellow
#2. I firmly disagree with what Falwell and Robertson had to say about the 9-11 attacks and how the pagans, the abortionists, the feminists, the gays and the lesbians made God punish those many innocent people. Our God is a God that brings happiness, love, and joy. Things that are evil do not come from God and he does not hurt people or destroy things to punish us. I think God answered one of my prayers during a baseball game in a tournament in Cooperstown, NY. The bases were loaded and we were losing by three in the last inning. As I walked up to the plate and stepped in the box I said a little prayer asking God to help me and get a hit to help the team win. After a couple pitches I hit the game winning grand slam. Ever since the hit I have always believed that God heard my prayer and was with me that at-bat.
1. I do not agree with Fallwell and Robertson, mainly because I believe that God does not punish us for committing sins. I believe in God and I believe he answered prayers. But the fact that Fallwell and Robertson blame the 9-11 attacks on gays, lesbians, abortionists and pagans is outrageous. I believe the 9-11 attacks happened because when something does not go someone’s way, they feel the need to destroy things and cause violence just like the terrorist groups that caused 9-11. They conspired to commit the attacks and had everything planned out down to every detail. They caused 9-11. Not God. God was not punishing us for taking prayer out of public schools. God is a loving God, not a spiteful God who punishes us when we do wrong. God made every single human being in his image and likeness, so why would he kill hundreds, even thousands of people for something some of them had no control over. I believe in the power of prayer and I also believe the Islam Terrorist caused everything that had to do with 9-11 and that it was not our fault. We were just on the receiving end of a very horrible attack.
After I watched the video I was shocked at how two “Christians” could be so hateful of other people. I completely do not agree with Falwell and Robertson. They say that 9/11 happened because God was punishing America because of the non-Christians, gays, lesbians, abortionists, and feminists. That their actions and beliefs caused God to be so angry with America and the fact that people were supporting their beliefs that he felt the need to kill thousands of innocent people and start a war as a result. I have been taught through all my years of Catholic school that Jesus taught that God was not a vengeful God and that every person, no matter who they are, is equal and special in God’s eyes. They are also saying that everybody who supports gays, pagans, abortionists, etc such as the ACLU is partially reasonable for 9/11 and helped it happen. They are also saying that 9/11 happened because the government doesn’t allow prayer in public school. Them saying that public schools should be forced to say Christian prayers in school is completely unconstitutional and violates our constitutional right to freedom of religion. I am completely against these men’s opinions and I am amazed that they are religious role models to some people and that people listen and agree with them.
The tragic events that occurred on September 11, 2013, have sparked many debates on what Americans did to deserve the attack. Many opinions swirled around including Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson’s theory. These two men believe in the theory of God’s Providence which basically states that because of certain people God punishes everyone. They believe that because of gays, the ACLU, and abortionists God punished the U.S. I completely disagree with this theory. Personally, I feel that there is no one to blame, but the terrorists themselves. I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and their own beliefs. Therefore I think the people who don’t believe in God or those who preach against God were not the cause of the tragic events. Nothing has changed from current day thought and the thought from the beginning of time. For example, Anne Hutchinson was banished from her colony because she wasn’t preaching what the main religion taught. She was persecuted for her beliefs because people thought that God would punish all of them because of her, similar to the thinking of Falwell and Robertson. I was taught ever since I was a young child that God does not punish people for doing something wrong. Why would God want to punish his own people? God instead helps us in our lives and cares for us whether we realize or not. Throughout my life my family has faced many obstacles. My family has gotten through many tough situations with God’s guidance and we have always made it through. I think that it wasn’t anyone’s fault whether gay, feminist, or abortionist for the horrific events that happened on September 11. I disagree with what Falwell and Robertson believe because I feel that everyone has a right to believe in what they want to believe in and God doesn’t punish usfor others actions.
1. I do not agree with their consensus of the situation, because what happened that day was not an act of God, it was the people’s choice. I think it is unfair that people that are gay, or lesbian, or people that chose to abort their babies get blamed for all the tragedies that happens, when in fact, they have done nothing wrong. People like these should be treated as another average person, because not everyone will believe in or act the same way.
2. I believe God played in important role in answering a prayer when I broke my leg as a kid. The doctors had said that it would be two to three months before I could go outside and run or play sports again, but after a shot month or so, my leg had fully healed!
3. An incident where people were prosecuted for their religious belief was when the 9/11 incident happened. I believe that the gay/lesbian community was treated unjustly because most of America had blamed the incident on them. They believed it was an act of God because marrying or being in a relationship with a person of the same sex was not part of God’s plan. They were shunned and are still being shunned to this day. They have done nothing wrong and are just people like us.
After watching the video and reading the transcript, I have decided that I completely disagree with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. I very strongly believe that God had nothing to do with the attacks on 9/11. I believe the attacks were not the result of God “lifting the curtain” as Falwell put it, but merely the result of tension between nations and the uncontrollable anger of the terrorist group responsible for these attacks, al-Qaeda . The part when Falwell states that pagans, gays, and all others who have tried to secularize America are partially to blame for the event is the part I disagree with the most. I honestly do not understand what could make him think that God would take all these innocent lives for that reason. I was taught that He is a loving and compassionate God, who made everyone equally in his image and likeness. I learned that he welcomes sinners back with open arms. If this is so, why would He take the lives of nearly 3,000 innocent people? The fact that they actually believe that this is God’s providence is very alarming. He would never do that to His people and especially not for such a petty reason as this.
The whole problem with this statement is, anybody would be angry at something like this. It’s hard to agree or disagree entirely on such a statement. However, after listening to the words of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, I’d have to say that I disagree with them. God doesn’t punish us for others living their lives differently, if he did that then where would our God of love and compassion be? Jerry talks about not letting gays and abortionists live their way of life, that it’s their fault that God supposedly “punished” us for that fact. He also says that these people need to take on some of the blame for God’s Word not being taught in public schools, that their actions make God mad. To me, this is kind of ridiculous. The two things literally have nothing to do with one another. It’s really hard to agree with a man who is pointing his finger and blaming someone else for something they didn’t do. Such a tragic event cannot have been thrown at us by God’s very hand. Jerry and Pat are soiling the name of our God by saying these things. So in this case, no, no I don’t agree with them.
I have a couple of personal stories that relates to how God played an important role in answering my prayers. When I was about six or seven years old, my grandma was diagnosed with cancer. Hearing this news was very difficult on my family because she was such a big part in everyone’s lives. The cancer had progressed quite a bit, and all we did every day was pray, pray, pray. My family and I did not just pray for her to get better, but more for wisdom and guidance. We prayed that she would find the best doctors there were to treat her illness and the best kinds of medicine to make her better. Even though I was young to understand how bad cancer really was, I still prayed really hard because it was difficult to see my grandma so sick. That was a really hard year for my family, and she was not really the same anymore. We continued to pray and pray until about a year later when we found out she was cancer free! She still continues to go to the doctor just to make sure everything is still okay, and every time she goes we all say a prayer for her. I feel that God answered my family’s prayers.
1. I would have to disagree with Falwell and Robertson’s views on why 9/11 had happened. They justify the killing of thousands of people as something that happened because of the few people who chose an alternative lifestyle, therefore having God punish America by destroying the twin towers. Those people who had gone against the religious views of Falwell and Robertson cannot be blamed for the actions of the actions of the muslim extremists because even if they had not existed, it still would have likely happened. The extremists were not trying to stop these few atheists and LGBT, but western society as a whole; to them, it is God who called for the jihad to stop the corruption of their old society. In the scriptures, a well known theme is “love thy neighbor”. God would have forgiven these few people for whatever wrongs they did, not punish them by punishing other innocents as well. The ACLU and the others work to secularize the government would have no effect on whether or not 9/11 would have happened; in fact, it might have increased the likelihood or cause it sooner, as Christian conversions would have seem extremely frightful to the Islamic extremists. Although they do make a good point that 9/11 was only the beginning, I disagree with the reasons why they believed it happened.
After reading and listening to the discussion between Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson, I disagree with their belief of God’s Providence one hundred percent. Some specific things that I did not agree with included when they said that the pagans, the abortionists, the feminists and the homosexuals were a leading cause in 9-11 occurring. I do not agree with them on that statement because the people that should really be blamed with 9-11 are the mean, horrible terrorists who thought of and executed the plan of 9-11. To say that it was the people who are just a little bit different than everybody else fault is false. In God’s eyes, every person is created equal and deserves the same amount of respect as everyone else does. The fact that those men think that way of the different people in society is very sad. It shows that they believe that God does not think equally of everybody that he has created. This is totally false. Also, the fact that these men think that God punished an entire nation because of certain groups of people goes against everything that we believe. It contradicts the good and compassionate God that we all have come to know and believe in.
I disagree strongly with Falwell and Robertson in the video shown. I disagree with them because they are basically pointing fingers at innocent people for the tragedy of 9/11. They are saying that God is allowing this and that the ACLU is a contributing factor. They shouldn’t be blaming or accusing people for 9/11. Falwell had no right to say, “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen." None of those people, whom we know of, helped to make 9/11 happen. He had no cause and evidence to prove his statement. If he really were a follower of God he wouldn’t be directing his anger to innocent people. He would be praying for the strength to forgive those terrorists and that this never happens again. I also disagree with their belief in God’s providence. God loves us, he wouldn’t try to punish us for every bad thing we do. He sent His only son to save us, why would he punish us now?
I agree with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson in saying that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were horrible and disgusting and they could do much greater damage to American civilization. On the other hand, I strongly disagree with everything else Farwell and Robertson had to say. Their belief in God’s Providence is wrong in saying that it was the reason or this tragedy. God made everyone is his own image and God loves everyone even if they are pagans, abortionists, feminists, or gays and lesbians. What Falwell and Robertson were saying is discrimination. America was not attacked because God was “mad” and punished America for being a free society. God did not chastise Americans for being gay or being abortionists. They were most definitely not the reason why America was ever threatened or the reason why many were killed. Also, the ACLU is also not to blame. Fighting to keep prayer out of public schools has nothing to do with the attacks. The ACLU only wants to protect students’ religious freedom and their freedom of speech. America was attacked by al-Qaeda terrorists because of many reasons including the sanctions imposed in Iraq, presence of the USA military in Saudi Arabia, and United State support for Israel.
I do not agree with these two men at all. Over the years I’ve learned, in theology classes, that it’s never God’s intention to harm us. He doesn’t make horrible things happen in our society, evil does. When Original Sin first happened, we welcomed evil into our lives. That’s what cause disasters, and sickness, and death. God does, however, tie these events into his plan for us. Terrorist attacks are certainly not God trying to punish us. The types of people that they named (feminists, gays, abortionists, etc.) had absolutely nothing to do with the attacks. I personally think that these two men have it all wrong, and to blame them on national television really sickens me. I can’t stop what has already taken place, but I can’t pray to God. I pray to God every single day. I say two intentions every day. Years ago my Aunt was diagnosed with breast cancer. I prayed for her literally 15 times a day. She means so much to me and I knew I needed to pray to God for help. Praying to God may not exactly solve the problem right away, but it does make you feel better knowing that God’s doing what he can to help. I am glad to say that my aunt is now 7 years cancer free. God didn’t purposely make her sick. Bad stuff just happened inside her body and God couldn’t control it. But God did help it and make her better.
I have to say that I completely disagree with what Robertson and Falwell are saying. They seem to think that being different is going to make God mad. I do not agree with the idea of abortion, I think it is wrong and there are better ways to handle it but I don’t think that a woman who is choosing to do something we don’t believe in means that she had anything to do with horrible events of 9/11. Also just because people are gay and lesbian doesn’t mean that God hates them or that they had anything to do with 9/11 either. I do not think trying to have an alternative lifestyle means that you contributed in any way to that event. Also just because we decided to let there be a place for people who don’t have the same beliefs as us doesn’t mean that we are “throwing God out of the public square”. People should be allowed to be different without being condemned for such terrible things. I have been going to Catholic school since I was in kindergarten and I have always learned that God is a loving God and that even if we sin and do something wrong he will always forgive us. So if God is loving and is always willing to forgive, why would he want hurt us ?
I do not agree with what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson had to say. I can accept their idea of God as a punishing and providing father, however I do not believe God would commend the mass killing of hundreds of people for things that they did not do or things that were not worthy of that severe of punishment. 9-11 was an attack on the country by our nation's enemies, not prophets sent by God. I would like to believe that there is a decency in everyone that is screaming at as us we do something wrong, or makes us do what is difficult but right rather then what is easy and wrong. what happened on 9-11 was not the fault of any group of people in particular; the pagans, the abortionists, the feminists, and the gays, the lesbians, it was the result of our work together and other's reaction to that work, not God's. God, I'm sure, would rather firmly reprimand us then have a mass murder ensue. Falwell and Robertson are fine to be God-fearing and loving men, but to me the fact that they believe God would turn his back on his own people seems just a bit too absurd to be true.
I disagree with Falwell and Robertston because the blame should not be out on the pagans, abortionists, gays, or lesbians just because their religious or personal beliefs are different from Falwell's and Robertson's beliefs. I think Falwell and Robertston are using these groups as a scapegoat because they believe that these groups are sinning due to their lifestyles and beliefs. These guys only think that they know what makes God angry and can only guess what these peoples' lives are like. Falwell and Robertston think but do not understand what God thinks of these people and what he has planned for them. Falwell and Robertston were only looking for scapegoats and people to point fingers at and these were the easiest to blame because their religion condemns them. Falwell and Robertston are contradicting themselves because if God created us in his image and likeness and if he created us and equals, then we are all to blame not just these specific groups that stand out. They have a weak argument for their reasoning, it only consists of blaming he people they do not like.
As a child of God, I do not agree with Falwell and Robertson’s religious opinions. The opinions of these two men is that they agree that God is both the punisher and the provider. As a believer of the catholic religion, I do not believe that God is a punisher. The tragedy and killing of the people in 9/11 were not in any way, under the control of God. Falwell and Robertson both agree that God uses punishment because it’s what we deserve. I am taught to believe that God is a provider, and only a provider. I do agree with their statements that it is wrong to throw out prayer to God in public schools, but I completely disagree to give the pagans, abortionists, feminists, and the gays and lesbians the blame for this terrible disaster. I believe and am taught that everyone is made under the image and likeness of God. I’m very shocked at the points in this video. I do not think it is right to blame people with different backgrounds, sexuality, and beliefs the cause of the attack. The catastrophe of 9/11 did not occur because of the punishment from God, but because of the hatred and jealousy of people towards the United States.
I highly disagree with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robinson on their views of God’s Providence, which is the belief that states that God rewards and punishes people based on their actions. I personally do not believe in God’s Providence. I do not think that the horrific acts that occurred on 9/11 were due to God punishing people like abortionists, feminists, pagans, gays, or lesbians. If everyone is made equally and in God’s own likeness and image, then it should not matter if you are “different.” I think 9/11 was just due to the acts of individuals who have a strong hatred towards America. I also do not think that the ACLU is even remotely to blame and is irrelevant to the whole situation. The ACLU is doing what is right by not allowing prayer in government run, public schools. If prayer was allowed, then what America was built off of, which is religious freedom, is no longer true. I do agree with Falwell and Robinson on the fact that America has changed from what God originally intended, but I do not think that God would ever so cruelly punish his own creation with such a terrible incident such as 9/11.
1. I do believe in God's providence in some ways. I believe that if something doesn't turn out like you planned, like maybe you didn't get that job you wanted, that God has something else planned for you. That that wasn't your calling, that you may find something better later on. But I do not believe in God's providence in the sense that the evil in the world is an act of God as punishment for our sins. I don't believe that. Evil is a result of choices and our free will, not a punishment from God, so I strongly disagree with Mr. Falwell and Mr. Robertson. One of the points I disagree with the most is how Mr. Falwell blames people that he doesn't agree with for the terror attacks. He says, "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" You don't have to approve of someone's way of life of agree with their beliefs, but you have to respect them. You cannot spread hatred and blame these groups of people for everything that goes wrong in the world just because you don’t agree with them. I don't agree with his accusations that feminists, gays, and lesbians are somehow responsible. Feminism is all about equality, so the notion that they are responsible for terror attacks committed by Islamist extremist hate groups is completely nonsensical. His obvious disapproval of people attracted to their same sex is also completely irrelevant. You may not agree with someone's lifestyle, but God made us all who we are. God does not hate his own creation. Gay and lesbian people are also in no way responsible for the terror attacks. People who are pro-choice and people who are pagans are also in no way responsible. These two men are spreading a hateful message by placing the blame on these various groups. To accuse these various groups of being the cause of the attacks is to tell them that they are evil people. Whether or not you agree with the views of any of these people doesn’t matter, you have to respect their points of view and understand that God, if you believe in Him, is a God of love. He is not a cruel God, and he most certainly does not punish us.
I would probably have to agree with Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, although I do not agree with 100% of the things they stated, I would have to concur and agree with most of their argument. God is a loving and compassionate God, he didn’t make 9-11 happen but I do believe we were being punished, not by God, for throwing him so much out of our life. Our country was built around God, that’s why so may people came to America in the first place, to worship God in their way. Why would our money say “In God we Trust”? We really have forgot about God; we can sit through three hour long movies, but get bored during mass, we would rather make money than pray? We have disbanded God in our schools, and learning process. Why cant schools offer a course in theology or learning about Christ, it doesn’t have to be mandatory. The bible has a lot of good stories about respecting and helping others, which seem to be very common themes that are taught by various religions. And I know this is a touchy subject but the beliefs of the Church and teachings of God go against any kind of Homosexuality. We have forgot about making God a part of our everyday life and we need to take responsibility for our actions, we have been punished for disregarding God in our lives.
After listening to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson speak I completely disagree with their opinions. I don’t believe that the people who decide to get abortion or live a gay lifestyle; I don’t always believe some of those choices are the right choices to make in life, but I do believe that had nothing to do with bringing down those towers on 9/11. I don’t believe that God made 9/11 happen just because it was God’s providence. God is a creator and would not hurt us in any way because he create us in his image, he would not do those horrible thing just because he was angry with us because God love us no matter what.
I’m going to have to very strongly disagree with Falwell and Robertson’s views. The 9-11 terrorist attack was no one’s fault except for the terrorists who planned and executed it. To say that other, innocent people were the cause of this attack is in my opinion, completely ridiculous and rather disrespectful. If these two men believe that God planned everything, they should agree that God made all people in His image and God makes no errors. To say that people with certain lifestyles (such as gays/ lesbians) or views about equality (such as feminists) made God angry seems to be a contradictory statement. The Bible says that all of God’s children are equal and we should love our brethren. To blame our brethren with different opinions than their personal ones involving God’s Providence for such an atrocious and hateful event is very infuriating. They also brought up the fact that this attack was brought on by the separation of church and state and I don’t really agree with that. Some people have different views on life and religion but God still loves them and they shouldn’t be forced to practice a religion that’s not their own in a place that they are required to go to. The purpose of schools is solely an education. If people want to incorporate religion into their education then they have the option to do so. In my opinion, such things as an not praying in school or an alternative lifestyle are not things that God wouldn’t like. Now, a terrorist attack which killed hundreds of people is a different story. To say that this attack was God’s punishment for the actions of abortionists, feminists, gays/lesbians, etc. is something that I just do not agree with at all.
After listening to what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson had to say, I completely disagree with their ideas. God’s providence states that God is in complete control of all things. He rewards those who act justly and punish those who do not. I do not believe in this idea. God does not punish people through terrible acts of terrorism. We are taught that God is a God of adoration and sympathy, not a God of hatred and punishment. God created everyone in his image and likeness, but he gave us free will. The ability to act at one's own will was used by the men responsible for the terrorism act of 9/11. Falwell and Robertson blamed the American Civil Liberties Union, pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays and the lesbians for the attack on September 11th. These people or groups were not the ones who deliberately attacked and killed thousands of innocent people in America. They cannot be blamed for the act of terrorism, nor can God. God would not harm the people he created. He made a promise to never again turn on his people after he flooded the earth. Falwell and Robertson are being close-minded and refuse to see past their own beliefs.
I disagree with Falwell and Robertson because they believe that taking God out of public schools could have affected the outcome of 9-11. They also blame pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays and lesbians this tragedy. I think that they have nothing to do with any of it because God loves all people and he does not blame people that are different for disasters because we are all made out of his image and likeness. I do believe that God provides but I do not agree with the statement that he punishes. God would not kill innocent people on behalf of the values of others. Even if America has done some things wrong God would not let Americas enemy’s kill for the sake of punishment. Blaming gays, pagans, and others would not make anything better; if anything all of America should take responsibility for the tragedy if someone had to be blamed. Every human sins, so why blame a specific group of people just because you don't agree with their ideals and practices? No on really know the real reasons for the attack but the enemies clearly did not just target one race or one group of people. They wanted to retaliate against anyone in America. This shows that blaming different groups of people that are considered “different” will not get America anywhere. Falwell and Robertson seem to discriminate against anyone who does not believe in their values.
I believe that God always answers a prayer. Last May, my dad had to go through a stress test, but he went into cardiac arrest. The doctors were able to resuscitate him quickly, and they inserted a pacemaker. During the months before his surgery, my dad always prayed that God would keep him safe and his procedure would go well. God answered his many prayers.
Last week, my dad had to have a cardiac catheterization so that the doctors could find out if there was blockage in his coronary arteries. The results of his stress test were not normal, leading to concern. To check this, the doctors had to insert a catheter in his femoral vein to check if there was any blockage in his heart or any other problems. Because it was a heart surgery, my family was really nervous. We prayed that his surgery would go well and that he would be kept in good health. Family, friends, and even people from St. Mark’s were praying for him, hoping the surgery would be successful. After the surgery, we found out that there was no blockage in his heart, so that was a relief. He was also able to return home the same day. My dad had a successful surgery, and I know that God answered our prayers. My dad is also really thankful to God because he is still healthy enough to care of our family. I believe that God always answers our prayers.
I absolutely disagree with Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. It is a horrible idea to think that God would kill thousands of people due to political reasons. I personally belive that God is merciful, and he would not discriminate against gays and lesbians because he created all of us the way we are. Falwell and Robertson are trying to use tragedy and the senseless deaths of innocents to further their own political views. They blame pagans, lesbian, gays, feminists, and abortionists for crimes they had no part or influence in. There is also no way that two mortal men could possibly interpret the divine will of God. It is ignorant to assume that God would kill so many innocent people for political reasons, and in my opinion the politics that Falwell and Robertson opposed were further the rights and liberties of Gays and religious minorities. From the way they talk you can clearly tell that they think they are religiously and morally superior to other people. Their firm belief that God would commit the mass killings of innocent people confounds me, and goes against everything I know and have been taught about God.
After listening and reading about what Falwell and Robertson had to say about the events that occurred on 9/11, I have to say I completely disagree with them. The reason for this is because what they had to say was, in my mind, outrageous and frankly unbelievable. I understand that these men believe in God’s divine providence, but there’s a point where it becomes extreme. If they were saying it was a rainy day because there was a leaky pipe in their house, all right go for it. But blaming the deaths of thousands of people on abortionists, feminists, gays, and lesbians is way too extreme. It’s the people’s choice, not God’s. Yes I believe in God, but not in divine providence. To me, things happen for a reason and they aren’t destined to happen because God makes it so. If everything was in God’s control then why are humans able to make decisions and change their minds? It just doesn’t add up. Falwell and Robertson may be considered idols in their beliefs but to me, they’re pretty arrogant and clueless. I’d like to ask one of them why they blame the incidents of 9/11 on these people. I don’t know how you could answer that question.
After I listened to the conversation between Falwell and Robertson, I can say that I believe it was completely ridiculous. I disagree with their opinions on the events of 9-11. To even give the slightest thought that 9-11 could be the work of our God is simply foolish. I do not believe in God’s Providence because the God I believe in would never play a role in such a catastrophe. This portrays an angry God who doesn’t forgive his people but my God forgives all no matter what. Falwell and Robertson do make some valid statements about modern society and how there are those who make bad decisions, but what they say about God I do not agree with. 9-11 was caused by our people and our people only. I also disagree with their scolding of gays, abortionists, pagans, and feminists and their role in the event. All of these people are the same as everyone else. Overall, I believe Falwell and Robertson were completely wrong in what they said because I know God would never perform such a terrible event.
I completely disagree. I do not think that John Farewell can “point his finger” at the gays, lesbians, feminists, etc. and say that they are part of the reason the events of 9/11 happened. 9/11 happened because there are people that are raised in an evil society ad with an evil heart. That is no one else’s fault but their own. A person’s sexuality in America has absolutely nothing to do with a person in Saudi Arabia (Osama Bin Laden). If they truly believed in God and truly loved God they would know that our God does not punish in that type of violent and unthinkable way. I do not think that gays, lesbians, feminists and abortionists are the people we need to worry about in today’s society when we have events such as 9/11 happening in our world. A time that really stands out in my mind of when God answered a prayer of mine is when my grandmother was given the news that she had cancer. My whole family became very scared and we prayed all the time. When the final cancer results came in the doctors found that it was a very small cancer unworthy of chemo or treatment. After the Revolutionary War, Virginia was the center of many Baptist and Presbyterian persecutions. Anglicans would physically beat the Baptist group. Many events like this took place of which included whipping, public harassment and dunking until the person almost drowned to death. I obviously don’t have positive outlooks on these incidents. I don’t believe discriminating of any sort should happen considering America really is a melting pot. People choose to live in a country knowing it is a melting pot and that there are very diverse groups of people. Knowing that, you (John Farewell) can’t put the blame on others just because they are different and have different views than you. You also can’t tell others how they should live.
I completely disagree. I do not think that John Farewell can “point his finger” at the gays, lesbians, feminists, etc. and say that they are part of the reason the events of 9/11 happened. 9/11 happened because there are people that are raised in an evil society ad with an evil heart. That is no one else’s fault but their own. A person’s sexuality in America has absolutely nothing to do with a person in Saudi Arabia (Osama Bin Laden). If they truly believed in God and truly loved God they would know that our God does not punish in that type of violent and unthinkable way. I do not think that gays, lesbians, feminists and abortionists are the people we need to worry about in today’s society when we have events such as 9/11 happening in our world. A time that really stands out in my mind of when God answered a prayer of mine is when my grandmother was given the news that she had cancer. My whole family became very scared and we prayed all the time. When the final cancer results came in the doctors found that it was a very small cancer unworthy of chemo or treatment. After the Revolutionary War, Virginia was the center of many Baptist and Presbyterian persecutions. Anglicans would physically beat the Baptist group. Many events like this took place of which included whipping, public harassment and dunking until the person almost drowned to death. I obviously don’t have positive outlooks on these incidents. I don’t believe discriminating of any sort should happen considering America really is a melting pot. People choose to live in a country knowing it is a melting pot and that there are very diverse groups of people. Knowing that, you (John Farewell) can’t put the blame on others just because they are different and have different views than you. You also can’t tell others how they should live.
I do not agree with Falwell and Robertson. The first thing I disagree with is that they stated “And since 1812, this is the first time that we’ve been attacked on our on soil and by far the worst results.” This is not factually true because America was attacked on Hawaiian soil at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. They also say that God pulled back the curtain of his protection and allowed this attack to happen as punishment against Americans. Personally, I do not think that that is how God interacts with humanity. I personally believe that God gave all humans free will and allows them to make their own choices, which is why the attack happened, instead of God deliberately allowing only certain acts of terror to happen specifically as punishment. Another point I disagree with them on is that the ACLU should “take blame” for what happened on 9/11/2001. Falwell and Robertson say that they are to blame because they “threw God out of the federal court system, out of the public square and out of the schools.” This deals with the separation of church and state, which was a central issue addressed in the American Constitution following the Revolutionary War. It has been a basis of the American identity and government for nearly all of America’s existence as a country. I think they were wrong in saying that religion should be taught in public schools, or that it matters in the federal court system. Another point of the American identity is religious freedom. Everybody in America is free to practice whichever religion, if any, they choose to. This idea lead to separating church from state and banning the teaching of religion in public schools, as people of other religions would take offense. Lastly, I disagree with Falwell and Robertson most strongly on their point that people and organizations should be blamed for what happened on September 11th. They blame abortionists, feminists, gays, the ACLU, and several other groups and organizations for the terrible events of that day. Firstly, I believe that no one should be blamed except for those that organized the attacks themselves. Secondly, they target minority groups such as gays and feminists to blame. Those groups had nothing to do with the attacks whatsoever. Also, the Christian church preaches that Christians should not discriminate against any group, especially since Christians themselves spent many years fighting off persecution. I think that nearly everything Falwell and Robertson said was very wrong, and that they offended many people, including many Christians and Americans, by saying what they did.
I personally disagree with Falwel and Robinson. I do stand on some sides with them such as abortion. Although I have this stance, I personally do not blame these groups of people directly for what happened on 9/11.They were not the ones who devised a plan and carried it out. They were probably affected just like all Americans were. They lost loved ones just like the rest of us. You cannot blame them just because of their lifestyle, a lifestyle that they do not "choose." These men did not have the right to blame those who do not live a "normal" lifestyle. They were created by God just like they were. I don't believe that God directlt punnishes us for our sins. I believe that we are eventually judged on our entire life. It is about the quality of our lives and how well we live it. I believe that if you are a good person with good morals, God will acknowledge and reward you. I strongly disagree with these two men for blaming what happened on innocent people.
Praying is a daily action that takes place in my life, whether it would be during school or before I go to bed I believe God answers your prayers. I ended seventh grade miserably, I had found out what true friends were and felt as though I could not trust anyone. I myself had been a little on the rebellious side that whole year and always seemed to be grounded. About a month into summer six of my closet friends decided they did not want anything to do with me and to top if off my great-grandmother was diagnosed with leukemia and given two weeks to live. I remember praying just out of desperation for anything to make me happy because on the inside I was miserable. Week one came went and my poor grandmother was frail and dying. The second week came and went and she was still fighting hard. Six months later her body had managed to cure itself from Leukemia. That little old woman made me a more compassionate person and she did not leave me in two weeks. I got ten extra months with her. She was my light at the end of the tunnel: my favorite topic 24/7. All the misery and resentment I had seemed to evaporate. On May 19th, 2013 at 94 my great- grandmother passed away. God answer my prayer by giving her those extra eleven months; my great grandmother was the happiness I had prayed for.
I strongly disagree with the opinions of Falwell and Robertson. When something as awful as 9/11 happens the only people to blame are the people directly responsible for the event happening. The only people who hold any responsibility are the ones who made the conscious decision to carry out the horrific act, that being said there is no logical way to blame anyone else. Saying that pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, and lesbians, caused this to happen by going against God is a ludicrous as blaming the Kardashians for global warming. Just because someone's views or their lifestyle differs from yours, doesn't mean that because of them doing so your God allowed something awful to happen. I believe that all things happen for a reason however, I don't believe that God would allow certain awful things to happen to totally innocent people in response to the way a few people choose to live. Just because something is different doesn't mean that it is wrong.
I strongly disagree with the video for many reasons. Firstly, all of the “minorities” the preacher named are in no way responsible for the terrorist attacks on our country. I believe he is narrow-minded for blaming a tragic event on innocent people. Many people find a way to project hatred for their enemies on unrelated people. I don’t believe being a pagan, feminist, etc. is considered a sin, even to the strictest degree. I believe God is an accepting and loving Creator. I do not believe he would blatantly punish a world he worked so hard to create. I know I hear many people try to blame God for all the bad things that happen, but they’re wrong, in my opinion. It is never “God’s Providence” to destroy his most beloved creations. In fact, I believe that everything bad that has happened to man was done by man to himself. God wouldn’t want us to hurt each other, rather be accepting of the “pagans”, “feminists”, “homosexuals”, etc. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have no business blaming 9-11 on so many people, and even the Lord. They obviously do not grasp the concept that our God is a loving God. The only ones who are to blame are those who participated in the malicious act itself.
Our God is one of love and life. That is why I have to disagree with both of the men. When we are born God gives us free will. He lets us make our own choices from the beginning of our life and excepts us and loves us for who we are. God created us all differently, that's why its okay for people of alternative lifestyles are accepted and loved just the same as us. Also, God created us all in his likeness and image so why would he want to punish the people he loves so much? He wouldn't. God would never do something so cruel and evil to people he loves, that is not the way God works. The only thing I do agree with is when they said our society is changing and is different than it was before. That statement is completely true. The events that happened during 9-11 were because of the feud between us and another country not God. So, to accuse God of something like that is a sin in itself.
I strongly disagree with Falwell and Robertson’s belief in God’s divine providence. In no way do I agree with them that God is punishing us. Instead, I believe that it was a test from God for all humanity. Sometimes people forget about humility, forgiveness, charity, and love. On September 11, 2001, God reminded us of these important values and tested our civility and kindness to all mankind. Falwell and Robertson believe that God is punishing us, but I believe God had a different plan for us on that day. When the towers came crashing down, it was easy to question God’s intent and turn against one another. However, it provided Americans with an opportunity to show their strength and come together in faith and community. So many people turn to prayer in times of crisis. There is nothing anyone can do to change history or to fix mistakes from the past. But through prayer, people are able to find comfort in knowing God will help them get through something so tragic and difficult. It’s God’s way of testing our faith and challenging us to be better people and live as if we are true children of God. What happened on this day serves as a reminder of how important it is to believe and trust in God
After watching this, I can say with confidence that I completely disagree with all of their opinions. Although it is true that many people were killed on this day, it is not true that their death was in any way related to the alternative life styles lived by some people. We as people do not simply choose who we are in life, God has made us predestined to be who we are. God made us in his image and likeness and to say that the occurrence of 9/11 was due to God’s punishing of us is irrefutably wrong. For God to punish his creations for being what he made them to be is like punishing a priest for preaching. Considering man to be his greatest creation, God would not intentionally hurt his treasured gift to the world. I believe that bad people who had a damaged child life style that leaned them towards a damaged future are the cause for most of the wrong in the world. People believe in what they trust in life, and to be punished for believing in something is wrong. Although I disagree with their points of view on this topic, I Do agree with their reasoning that society has changed from what is was before.
Divine Providence is the belief that God is the provider and also the punisher. I deeply disagree with all statements and all aspects of the conversation between Falwell and Robertson. However, I do agree that prayer should be allowed in the public school system because of the tragic, national crisis 9/11 is, but it should just be temporary and not mandatory. That point being made, the two men completely disregarded the rights and dignity of the human person. The accounts the two men made were just completely insensitive and thoughtless. Maybe in that time and place it may have been tolerable, but for ministers to proclaim such profound and absurd remarks is just unprofessional. First off 9/11 occurred because of human choice, not divine providence. Hatred and dispute between groups of people caused 9/11 by the violent acts of that hatred. These men claimed abortionists, homosexuals, feminists, and pagans to be solely responsible for 9/11 because of Divine Providence. These men and women probably did not have anything to do with 9/11. People have free will and they can make whatever choice they want whether it is being a feminist or wearing purple. Abortion is a touchy subject, but those women who did go down that path probably were in a very tough situation and recognize if they made a mistake or not. We are all sinners no matter how severe or insignificant. The belief that 9/11 is God’s punishment is asinine. The matters stated in this video enraged me because of the insensitivity of the minister’s and disregard for a human’s free will.
After reading the words stated by Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson I strongly disagree with their teachings and their beliefs. I especially do not agree with Robertson and Falwell’s belief of divine providence. Divine providence is the belief that God intervenes in our lives in special ways. I do believe that God intervenes in positive and helpful ways, but I don’t believe that he would kill almost three thousand innocent people. In addition, I think it was completely immature to blame the federal court system, abortionists, pagans, gays, lesbians, the ACLU, and People For the American Way. Placing the blame for the horrible acts that occurred on that fateful day on anyone but the terrorists responsible is cruel and unjust. These people can not be blamed for the wicked minds of the terrorists who caused this attck. I believe that God would not be happy about these people, but that would not justify the mass killing of thousands of innocent people. Since I was a little kid I was always taught that God is kind and merciful. The God that I believe in could not be responsible for such a horrific act. If one believes that all these people are the cause of 9/11, then they are just as extreme as the terrorists who are responsible.
I would have to completely disagree to the thoughts of Falwell and Robertson. Their view of 9-11 is that is was a warning by God that He is displeased with the actions of the American people. So they are believers in Divine Providence. Falwell said that he believed a huge cause of this catastrophe was religion being taken out of the schools, or Church vs. State. When in reality this was a part of the Jihad, or religious world. So truly it was a conflict between religions and not religion against people. The actions of the American people and the court systems were not to blame because it was a foreign attack against the security of our nation. It was also said that God sent this event because He was angry with us. How could God truly kill that many people, affect that many lives, and hurt a whole nation when He is “slow to anger and rich in kindness”? We are all created in God’s image and after His likeness. Those who are gay and lesbian are not an exception. We are all God’s children so God would not punish us for being what He has intended for each and every one of us to be. I believe that Falwell and Robertson were seeing the political and religious warfare that was coming from the Middle East. They are myopic in the sense that they looked at 9-1 as something internal to our country. They did not see the big picture, or put it on a global scale to see what the truly causes and effects were from this attack.
After listening to these two men blame the attacks of 9/11 on peoples lifestyles that are not entirely what they believe, I can say that I was outraged and sickened. I do not think that the way people live their lives could ever be a reason that people would commit such a brutal attack on us. God is an accepting God, and I do not believe that just because people are not conforming to popular belief that God would "allow" such a terrible thing to happen to innocent people. Yes, God has punished all of humanity before, but God also promised humanity that he would never do so again. In my opinion, saying that God would allow this to happen would be going against God's own word, and I believe that a difference in belief would not give God a good enough reason to allow such a tragic and harmful attack to befall his people.
After listening to these two men blame the attacks of 9/11 on peoples lifestyles that are not entirely what they believe, I can say that I was outraged and sickened. I do not think that the way people live their lives could ever be a reason that people would commit such a brutal attack on us. God is an accepting God, and I do not believe that just because people are not conforming to popular belief that God would "allow" such a terrible thing to happen to innocent people. Yes, God has punished all of humanity before, but God also promised humanity that he would never do so again. In my opinion, saying that God would allow this to happen would be going against God's own word, and I believe that a difference in belief would not give God a good enough reason to allow such a tragic and harmful attack to befall his people.
I mostly disagree with Jerry Farwell and Pat Robertson’s opinions on the providence of God I completely disagree with Falwell when he said that he points his finger in the face of the people who have a different lifestyle than him. The terrorists that attacked America on September 11, 2001, were horrible and immoral, and no American should be blamed for that. We live in a free country, and those terrorists didn’t like that we are free and that the women that live here aren’t forced to cover themselves up and are second-class citizens. It was wrong of them in my opinion to say that the Americans who chose to live alternative lifestyles are to blame for the tragic events of 9-11. God answered my prayers about a year ago when my best friend almost committed suicide. She told me she was going to kill herself and she told me goodbye, and I told her mom to look out for her that night. I tried texting and calling my friend, but she wasn’t answering so I turned to God and prayed over and over for her to be okay. God did answer my prayers and I’m so thankful that she is alive and well today. An event in American history when people were persecuted for their religious beliefs is when the Puritans fled Britain to escape religious persecution. They wanted to purify the English Church, and if they didn’t come to the New World to escape that persecution, the early colonization of the United States would have been very different.
Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson were conservative ministers that partially blamed the American Civil Liberties Union, abortionists, feminists, and all those who try to secularize America for the 9-11 catastrophe. They claim that these people and practices have angered God which helped lead to 9-11 and other tragedies and impending dooms for America that they claim may be well deserved because of these actions. They argue a point, that secularists and the government have provoked God’s wrath by “[Throwing God] out of the schools.” Through my personal experiences with prayer, God has answered my needs through prayer outside of school and in school. One instance, I prayed to God for the recovery of a sick relative after spending time with them while they were hospitalized. Through intentions for prayers in school and through other doxologies to God, my relative was able to recover from the worst pains of the illness and my entire family was given relief through God’s grace and providence. There is no doubt that prayer played an important role in the recovery of my relative and plays an important role in my everyday life. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson do have reason to question the government’s choice remove God and prayer from education systems; however, I disagree with their accusations of all the secularists, gays, lesbians, abortionists, and feminists being the reason for terrorist acts against America. God gave all humans the right of freewill and free choice; whether humans abuse that right is decided by the individual. There is the possibility of God punishing those who have sinned or strayed from them; although I believe that God will not punish the innocent, only those who have committed the sins. An example of this is the Bible story of Noah’s Ark. God found the entire world in turmoil, but he still found one man willing to be saved along with his family; that man was Noah. This story proves the fact that God will not punish those who are innocent, even if the entire world around them may be guilty of sin. In order for Falwell and Robertson’s reasoning to be accurate, every person involved in all crimes and acts of terror would have to be guilty of separation with God; and their prediction of a dreadful future for America will only stand if every soul in America has no innocence or reason to be saved by God, including Jerry and Pat. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have no substantial reasoning or evidence to support the idea of 9-11 being an act of anger by God. It would be a more accurate statement to say that 9-11 was an abusive use of freewill that probably has angered God because of the choices made to terrorize America.
I completely disagree with Falwell and Robertson. I do not believe that God works through Divine Providence. From what I have been taught about God, I have come to believe that the Lord loves everyone in His creation and would not want to kill or destroy innocent people because they have done deeds that are not in complete accordance with the Bible. Firstly, the Bible makes no note about how prayer and God in public schools should be handled. There is also nothing derogative about gays or feminists in the Bible, so where either of these men got the idea that God frowns upon gays, lesbians, feminists, and the restriction of prayer in public schools is beyond me. I, for one, think the idea that the existence of abortions, gays, lesbians, and so on is the cause of such a horrible terrorist attack is absurd. If anything, God would destroy the people He believes are detrimental to the good in the world individually instead of kill thousands of innocent people who were simply flying on a plane or working their job in the World Trade Center. Still, I believe that God sees the good in everyone and wants each of us to live and leaves the bad in the world up to the free will of the people.
I firmly believe in God and his work in the lives of others. He answers our prayers when we need him and his love the most. Even though some do not see the affect of our calling out to him, our compassionate God always delivers for us and He answers our prayers in ways that are best. When I was about ten years old, my sister who was eight at the time, had to undergo severe surgery. Although the chances were slim, the doctors could not promise that she would wake up from it. However, I was confident that God would allow her procedure to advance safely without any tribulation. At the time of my sister’s surgery, my great grandmother was slowly slipping away from the world. I prayed to God that he would allow my family and I to get through these hard times. Since I knew my grandmother was now ultimately in God’s hands, I found strength to accept that God was ready to take her into Heaven. I remember praying constantly for my sister and hoping she would wake up. On the day of her surgery, it was not looking well for my grandmother at all. My family prepared for the worst and even though we wanted to be with her for maybe the last time, my sister needed us by her side too. I prayed to God that he would find a way to make everything better. And that day, God’s providence really had shown through. While at the hospital, my parents received a call about my grandmother and they knew it was the day she would leave us. I could not understand why both these horrible things had to happen to me. Before my sister was put to sleep, my grandmother was about to die. Remarkably, she stayed alive through the multiple hours of surgery and passed just two minutes after my sister woke up. God allowed her to wait until my sister was safely awake and well before she passed. I believe God helped me as a result of my desperate prayers. That scary day I knew how thankful I was for God and his incredible ways.
Because of the thousands of different religious views and beliefs, there are many discrepancies on religion throughout the world: whether God exists, how many gods there are, if God has control over everything that happens and answers our prayers. Growing up, I reluctantly went to church with my grandparents every weekend, but I never really was interested in the concept of faith and speaking with God through prayer. It wasn’t until the day my grandmother passed away that I realized what an effect praying can have not only on your own life, but on other people’s lives, too. Being ten years old and never having attended a Catholic school, I was very curious and unsure about my faith and the concept of God; I did not really understand what it meant to pray or to put all my trust in God. In April of 2008, my grandmother was diagnosed with Liposarcoma, a very deadly form of cancer, and was told she only had a couple days to live. Knowing full well that there was no chance she would survive, I made peace with this horrific news rather quickly; instead of praying for her survival, I prayed for her to pass peacefully and painlessly so she would be able to watch over me comfortably from Heaven. I prayed to God every night until she passed away that she would not be in pain any longer and that she would be happier in Heaven where she wouldn’t be sick anymore; and sure enough, after four days, she died painlessly in her sleep alongside my grandfather. Waking up on that Saturday morning and hearing that my grandmother had passed away was probably the worst news of my life, but I couldn’t help but feel a sense of joy that she hadn’t been in pain during her last couple days on this earth and that she was in a much better place now. Instead of being angry with God for taking my close-at-heart grandmother away from me, I thanked God for giving her the chance to live life and have such an amazing impact on my life in every way possible; at times I look back and wonder why God had punished my family by taking my grandmother away so soon, before she could even watch me grow up and make something of myself, but then I realize it was for the best because in that moment, I truly felt that God had answered my prayers.
God has definitely played a role in answering my prayers. Last year, my grandmother had to go through many surgeries. I prayed every single day for her to have a good recovery because she has had difficulties in the past with recovering from surgery. Everyday at school my prayer intention was for her. I prayed up until and after her surgery. I talked to my aunt to see how my grandmother was doing after her surgery, and she told me that this is the best recovery she has every gone through. I do believe God played an important role in making sure she recovered well.
My grandmother had to then get another operation done to the same foot she had gotten surgery on before. Once again I prayed and prayed and prayed for my grandmother. She really needed to recover well from this surgery or else she was going to need another one. After she had the surgery, she covered very well. I would even say she recovered from this surgery than she did from her last surgery. After awhile, my grandmother was even up and walking after her surgery. God definitely answered my prayers, because I can not think of a way where she could have recovered any better.
After listening to what Falwell and Robertson had to say, I completely disagree with what they said. I don’t believe the attacks on New York twelve years ago were due to the sins of Americans. I don’t believe that God would choose to kill thousands of innocent people because of what is going on in the world. All the laws made against the Church must be made in order to keep a separation of church and state, which is necessary for a smooth running country. I truly don’t believe that God would punish not only the people that died but all of America because of female, gay, lesbian and abortion activists. The events that occurred on 9/11 were due to the minds of people who wanted to cause severe damage to America and had nothing to do with God. To me, the idea that God “let” those events happen to punish activists is absolutely crazy. God made all humans to love them and wanted them to be happy. He would never want to bring harm on purpose to those that he loved, created and cared for. No group or groups of people could ever be indirectly responsible for an act like those on 9/11. To say God punished all of America for what society was becoming is ridiculous.
After viewing the video on Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, I am not only in complete opposition to the views of these men, but I am disgusted at the things they have claimed here. I was raised by a strong Catholic family, and I know well the beliefs and teachings of the Church. To me, this instance goes beyond just religious beliefs. I hold my beliefs on human rights and equality proudly and strongly, and these men go against all of it. The founding fathers of this country stated that all people were created equally. They did not say that those with different beliefs were unholy or works of the devil. Every human being deserves their natural rights to express themselves and have freedom to live as they choose. Falwell and Robertson saying that minorities such as pagans or homosexuals caused God to want to punish the nation of America is completely unacceptable. In the book of Genesis it reads, “Then God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness,” and later, “… in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. God blessed them…” In these passages we clearly see that God created us to be like him, and God never created anything that isn’t good. We also see that God created male and female together, showing that the two sexes are equal, and should be treated as such. A modern belief of the Church to correspond with scientific theories and discoveries is that God was the original force to set the universe in motion, and he purposefully did not interfere on grand scales because of the gift of free will he gave to us, which goes against these men’s claims that God was personally punishing America. In the short story “Why Don’t You Look Where You're Going?” we learned about individualists against conformists. Just because someone is different doesn’t make them inferior to anyone else. In no way can I tolerate these men taking such a terrible national tragedy and simply dumping the blame on minority groups that they don’t like. Not even Osama BinLaden himself imagined that the towers would collapse and cause such a huge catastrophe. If not even BinLaden wanted that, then how Falwell and Robertson blamed fellow Americans for it who only want to exercise their rights without being persecuted for it perplexes me. I don’t agree with the views of these men in any way, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and, even in a case like this, we must respect that.
Personally, I think these two men are appalling, and I do not see eye to eye whatsoever with them. For starters, they blame a dreadful catastrophe on innocent people who only try to live their lives well and tranquilly. Falwell states in reference to the 9-11 attacks that “the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians...I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this happen.’” Falwell takes a direct shot at the gay community which I think is despicable. If two people want to live their lives in happiness and peace, then what kind of monster is Falwell to try to smother their joy? Let our Creator be their judge. What authority does he have to make the gay community a scapegoat? What authority does Falwell have to blame the people living “an alternative lifestyle?” Falwell also declares “The ACLU’s got to take a lot of blame for this.” The ACLU was trying to enforce what our founding fathers proposed and built our nation on, which is the separation of church and state. The phrase was used numerous times by Thomas Jefferson, and has been used repeatedly by the Supreme Court since. The ACLU did not “throw God out successfully with the help of the federal court.” They merely enforce a rudimentary concept of the Constitution. Though I do not entirely agree with abortion, Falwell is in no way entitled to be the judge of women who choose to have an abortion. How can he sit there and say that it is their fault when they are an entirely unrelated entity? It was not abortionists, gays, or pagans steering the planes into the twin towers, it was members of al-Qaeda. Falwell lets his opinions and customs of life make him appear as if he is a thoughtless, ill-advised individual. I hope that I will not have to coincide with mindless individuals such as these men in my life because I will never come to an understanding with anyone who follows a religion so blindly and malevolently.
Eric S Yellow 10/9/13
#1) I do not agree with the two men in the video. I do not believe an event as horrible as the terrorist attacks on 9/11 could be a punishment from God and blame should not be put on Americans. I actually do not think blame should be put on any very large group of people. It was a small extremist religious faction that carried out this terrible attack, not all middle eastern, and not all Muslims either. There is one small group to blame this, and it is certainly not Americans. Although it is true that the courts and American society have secularized most of our lives and pushed us more away from God, I do not believe God brought this horror upon the American people. I also personally am not an ironclad believer in divine providence. Sometimes some things happen simply because there are terrible people in this world that just want to hurt people. The main reason I disagree with these men is because I do not think that the accepting god that we have would bring a terrible event such as these attacks upon a group of people that are generally very accepting to lots of types of people. America is a free and open country where anyone can make their lives great, and that is not a type of place that our loving and accepting God would punish.
I disagree with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. I do not think nine eleven happened as a result of no prayer in public school. I don't think it happened because of parents choices to abort their children. And I definitely don't agree with Falwell's outrageous statement, “the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen." I do not believe that God would send thousands of innocent people, many of them Christians, to their deaths. I think this terrible attack happened because some people knowingly made the choice to do evil deeds. God gives humans free choice to pick wrong from right, and these people chose wrong. I cannot believe that this was an act of vengeance by God on America because of a lack of religious faith in the country.
James D. Green
I disagree with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. I do not think nine eleven happened as a result of no prayer in public school. I don't think it happened because of parents choices to abort their children. And I definitely don't agree with Falwell's outrageous statement, “the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen." I do not believe that God would send thousands of innocent people, many of them Christians, to their deaths. I think this terrible attack happened because some people knowingly made the choice to do evil deeds. God gives humans free choice to pick wrong from right, and these people chose wrong. I cannot believe that this was an act of vengeance by God on America because of a lack of religious faith in the country.
I disagree with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. I do not think nine eleven happened as a result of no prayer in public school. I don't think it happened because of parents choices to abort their children. And I definitely don't agree with Falwell's outrageous statement, “the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen." I do not believe that God would send thousands of innocent people, many of them Christians, to their deaths. I think this terrible attack happened because some people knowingly made the choice to do evil deeds. God gives humans free choice to pick wrong from right, and these people chose wrong. I cannot believe that this was an act of vengeance by God on America because of a lack of religious faith in the country.
Personally I do not agree with Mr. Falwell and Robertson. When they state the acts of 9-11 are an act of vengeance against ACLU I do not see the logic and reasoning behind their views. For example I don’t believe that God would use such a malicious and devastating act to show vengeance towards his creations that he loves and treasures, and secondly if God did want to punish the gays, lesbians, and abortionists why would he attack innocent people rather than the ACLU members themselves. I find that Mr. Falwell and Robertson are using the attacks just as a scapegoat for the so called “sinners” that they believe should be punished. Because God gives us free will, he should not have a reason to punish us for sinning but should instead guide us back to the right path. Their ideas are not very realistic and comforting and sound not very thought through.
I completely disagree with what was said in the video. I disagree with the belief of god’s providence and that God played a role in deaths on 9/11. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson also blame man groups for what happened including the ACLU, members of the gay and lesbian communities, feminists, abortionists, pagans, People For the American Way, and most of all the judiciary branch of the federal government. The groups mentioned had nothing to do with the September 11th attacks nor did God. God would not take out his wrath on thousands of innocent people. It was purely the actions of Islamic extremists. God is a forgiving and loving and would never do anything to harm anybody. Blaming the groups mentioned is completely ridiculous and upsetting. If I was a member of one of the groups mentioned I would be furious with them and them saying that I let what happened on 9/11 happen. Certain members of those groups may have been harassed because of what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said. Or worse they may feel responsible for a tragedy that they had nothing to do with. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson’s targeting of certain groups of Americans that he believes are anger God and blaming them for 9/11 is completely ridiculous and unacceptable.
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